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with this fiscal cliff. >> the president did say deja vu all over again. if corker is right, we are going to say some of the same machinations we've seen before. if it doesn't happen, the president wants that up or down vote on his plan. >> remember night, monday night is new year's eve when it all could go bad. >> and happy new year to you. >> thank you, gary. >>> and economists are warning that going over that fiscal cliff could pull us all back into recession. congress impressional democrats attended a new year's eve style rally saying the fiscal cliff ball is in the republican court. surae chinn is on capitol hill. >> i'm urging congress to take action, stop playing games, and let's move on. >> reporter: frustration has boiled over for bob packer, a small business owner. >> i'm disappointed and angry. if they were my representeddives, i'd certainly vote them out of office. >> on tie mitchell of brokering a deal is waning. >> we do have a chance, an outside chance to get this done. >> we need two words. presidential leadership, on not just taxing rich people. >> reporter: some democratic lawm
, and the legislation they came up with, jeff, contributed o the fiscal cliff that we're facing right now. >> glor: the president says this just keeps happening again and again. nancy cordes, thank you. income taxes won't be the only taxes going up if there's no agreement. estate taxes paid by those who inherit property will also jump. here's john blackstone. >> reporter: jeff page owns 120- cre vineyard in california's napa valley. but when his great-grandfather started farming here in the late 1800s, this was cattle country. >> both sides of the family came en before the turn of the century, and farmed orchard fruit and cattle. he reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. had land back in the hills over there? >> yeah. >> reporter: had to sell it all. >> had to sell all of it? i reporter: estate tax? >> yes. >> reporter: his grandfather died in 1972 when estate taxes were at an all-time high: 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. it was half-a-million dollars. we sold off 150 acres; gave us hemething to pay the tax with. >> reporter: n
fiscal cliff. that's when automatic tax increases and spending cuts would take effect. reaching a deal before then what be easy. right now both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we in washington are working while the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president i would be happy to look at whatever he proposes but the truth is we're coming against a hard deadline here. i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> former president george h. w. bush is still in intensive care at a hospital in houston with a stubborn fever. the family is, that he will be out of the i see you sound. the chief of staff said supporters a note yesterday including " he would ask me to tell you please put the sharks back in the closet " the 88 year- old has been in a hospital for more than a month after first coming down with bronchitis. >> a live look at the james lick and traffic is light. it is very cold and we will have updates on your
like this? "the kudlow report" starts right now. let's get the latest on the snag on the fiscal cliff talks and surprise news we are going to reach the debt ceiling in days instead of just a few months. john harwood has the details. what's going on? >> not a whole lot of actions going on. although there have been some developments. let me bring our viewers up to date on those. first of all, treasury secretary geithner this afternoon announced the united states would hit the statutory debt limit on monday. that's new year's eve. that's part of an effort to pressure congress to act to raise the debt limit which may or may not be direct limb reply indicated in the fiscal cliff talks but it is relevant to the larger issue of debt and deficits. the treasury can move money around in certain ways to extend the point where we actually reach a crisis for probably a couple of months. but this is an early warning sign. secondly, republicans in the house sent word to democrats in the senate, white house, it is your turn now. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that
.c. and some starbucks in washington, d.c. deciding to jump right into this whole fiscal cliff debate. coffee baristas are -- they've been told to write on coffee cups to say "come together." so they're writing this handwritten message saying come together as a way of encouraging politicians to come together and get this fiscal cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be at the top of the list. they interviewed people across the u.s., and a newspaper discovered a low credit score is a deal breaker in search of love. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >> can you imagine, hi, how are you? what is your credit score? >> 420. no, mine
increased with the fiscal cliff became more cautious but not unfeeling. >> deals right now. more deals after christmas but somebody always has to open a gift at christmas. >> reporter: they had predicted a increase of 3.3%. but it just came out with a prediction of 2.5%, still an increase. reporting live, consumer editor tom vacar, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> a south bay sheet metal shop created a shiny work of art inspired by the holiday season. >> look at this. a 14-foot tall stainless steal christmas tree. >> everybody who sees it is excited. 10 people worked 500 hours to build the statue. >>> at the toy drive outside lefty o'doul's they are hoping for a christmas miracle. we will explain why they need help. >> bad accident on highway 84, but how are the rest of the roads doing? >> back here, rain to talk about for christmas day, when it starts, when it ends and how much you will see. back here in 10 minutes. look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start streaming six ways to sunday. you'd get knocked off. and sometimes, it
friendly in a few days. we are watching right now the fiscal cliff negotiations and traders are watching closely and it is a flat morning as they are on both sides of the aisle trying to work that out. >>> and now dave clark and pam cook are both off and we continue with ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> there was a police shooting overnight in walnut creek. christian captain is near 680 with new information he found out within the past hour, christian? >> reporter: we have been on the scene since 4:30 and there is still a sizable police presence and we have seen some units just leaving in a few minutes. we have learned of course this was an officer involved shooting. if you take a look from our vantage point, the scene is at that brick wall you can see in the distance. police confirmed it all started as domestic violence and we have learned that the initial 911 call came in shortly before 3:15. >> we received 911 call transfer from the fire department at 3:13 this morning. there was screaming on the line. officers were dispatched and arrived within minutes. we received a radio transmissi
that will happen because of the fiscal cliff. it is very complicated. and right now, a solution is unclear. >> you are making my head hurt, brianna. no offense whatsoever. >> sorry. >> have a daiquiri out there looks absolutely gorgeous. try to have some fun. aloha. thanks very much. >> thanks, miguel. >>> if lawmakers fail to reach a deal by the end of the year, how will automatic tax increases affect your bottom line? we are breaking it down. >>> and is actor ben affleck consider a run for the u.s. senate? we will have his answer to questions put to him today. >>> and a teenage girl shot by the taliban for going to school, we will have an update for you on malala off salve zani. is still no deal in sight on the fiscal cliff. the president is holding firm on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. republicans say that must come with government spending cuts. in a plan b by republicans failed to make it to a vote and that has sparked some criticism from within the party. >> two years ago, speaker boehner promised to restore that process around which our entire government was designed. and so far, h
we can do this, avert the fiscal cliff that is right in front of us today. >> this is not something we are going to wait until the last day of december to get it done. adam. adam: proof words are cheap. it's the end of diecious, and absolutely nothing was done. why does it come down to the wire? republican senator of north dakota joining us now from capitol hill. sir, we appreciate you being with us, you were on fox business the other day, and are we going to have a deal or as some people are saying, do both sides want us over the cliff because it's easier to restore spending cuts? >> i'm in the camp to just keep pushing. that's where i'm coming from. as you said, the president and the leadership and the congress will have a meeting today at three o'clock, and so by four, they'll come out, and we'll have a better idea as to whether or not they'll come up with something, but regardless, for myself, and, i think, a lot of the senators and members of congress, we're just going to keep pushing because we got to come together and get people to agree on some kind of package. >> are you he
. and we will be following the fiscal cliff talks tomorrow. and clayton, you'll be hear, right? >> clayton: i will. so send us any of your questions as well and your thoughts. our -- go to our web site for the after the show show. >> gretchen: happy new year, everybody. gregg: fox news alert. powerful winter storm bringing deadly weather. >> oh, wow. that is a tornado. jesus, look at that tornado. it is like two tornados. it is two funnels on the frowned. oh, lord. look at there. wow! look at that. gregg: the storm system that produced those tornados in parts of the south not done yet. now posing a potentially major roadblock for countless holiday travelers. hello, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. >> i'm patti ann browne in for martha maccallum patti ann: local crews said there is only one thing that could have accused the damage. >> one thing they saw damage indicative of tornado damage. we had homes 90% destroyed. that doesn't happen with straight line winds. >> you have a lot of damage. people hurt and i went out with the skid steer. we rounded up equipment. we started opening the
both sides have decided it's in their political interest to go over the fiscal cliff. is that right? >> yeah, you never want to rule a deal off the table because we have lived through so many rounds that have ended in deals in the last couple years, but in this case, i think democrats think they get a better deal on policy by going over the cliff. that they end up getting more in taxes with less in spending cuts than they would get if they had to cut a deal right now. and republicans have persuaded themselves not completely convincingly in my view, but they have persuaded themselves it's much better to accept slightly higher taxes that they themselves don't have to vote for directly, even though they'll still be casting a vote for new tax rates, they'll be able to say, well, taxes have already gone up and we're just voting to cut them. so that's sort of how, at least, i think both sides are persuading themselves to sort of tip-toe off the cliff. >> and charles, i know you think republicans have more to lose here, but does either side get a boost from this? >> i don't think you get a
around -- oh, they're coming back. that's right. they're part of the fiscal cliff power panel. >>> let's turn to the market sell-off. the dow going down 158 pointis and want you to see the after-market numbers and the futures, something called the futures continue to trade and they suggest that if the dow jones industrial average were to open right now it would be down 315 points. the nasdaq would be down a whopping 51 and the s&p 500 down 39. here now is larry glazer from the mayflower advisers and director at tjm institutional services. guys, when we open on monday, is it going to look that bad? jim? >> it depends on what happens. this is the way uncertainty works, but, you know, i thought for a month that one of two things was possible, one that we go over the cliff and the republicans have ground cover to be lowering taxes and not raising them or these are guys who crave the stage. how are they not going to take it down to the 11th hour? they'll never be able to stand in front of their constituents and say they fought the good fight and by my logic it's still december 28th. this is
. >> the president says he's optimistic, congressional leaders promise avivement why the fiscal cliff compromise will be a cliff hanger. >> and a step back in time. how you can buy a piece of the past from your favorite ride. >> grieve, i'm elizabeth cook. >> a man and child pull from the waters and sadly, neither survived. the coast gash got the call of two people in the warter near point bonita. alyssa is there. >> reporter: the bodies were taken to fort baker. the man and young boy were at black sands beach. known for it's beautiful views of the city and treacherous surf. this stretch of coastline in sausalito is where a man and child were swept to sea and drowned. they were found floating under the golden gate bridge. late this afternoon, around 4:00, a third person who was taken out by the waves was able to get out of the surf and call 911. >> rescue united arrived and recovered two bodies, one male adult and one child. >> reporter: the water, a chilly 53 degrees. there was a high surf advisory. the beach is popular for fishing and picnics an it is dangerous with steep paths an rocks. it wa
mark. again, everybody's worried about the two letters, "fc," fiscal cliff, and pulling from the u.s. dollar, the yen is pulling back, the new regem that's in there, they are doing what they need to do, and nobody's going to gold right now. silver is sneaking up slowly, above the $30 range. we'll see that take off. reason for that is we look at china. china's economy is turning the corner. that's also helping with what you folks talked about earlier in the crude oil. see how it plays out. even though it's a light volume week as far as trading -- ashley: still, though, a downward trend with the chart. what's the story with silver? >> well, you saw silver pull back with gold. normally, they run, and now what we're seeing is there's a little bit more demand. china's picking up the pace a little. we are seeing silver that's up, what, 24 cents as of today? not a bad move from a one day, especially in the light volume. ashley: if we get it done on the fiscal cliff, will we see a selloff in metals? >> i don't believe that we will. europe right now is the safe haven. there's no negative ne
. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things that would be right away in a negative impact would be unemployment benefits and 2 million americans would see the unemployment benefits and that would hurt the economy and that would hurt these people that are relying on this and the unemployment insurance has been seen as economic stimulus to get hands into the money of people who need it and they were things that actually get spread over the course of 2013 if there is no fix that is actually done and it is possible for congress to go back and fix things and talking about the increase of tax rates and there will also be spending cuts to government programs as well as the military and that will be spread over with 2013 and the world doesn't come to an end if we go over this quote, unquote, fiscal cliff and instead, a lot of the damage gets spread
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
now, this is the only shot we have to avoid the fiscal cliff. the fact that they are giving it another shot over the next 48 hours, it is probably as good of a result from the meeting as you could've expected. gerri: i love ending on an optimistic note. that is definitely good news. i would like to thank all my guests are you think you all for your fine analysis and thank you for your help tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> happy new year. gerri: how would you describe today's closed-door fiscal cliff meeting between the president and congressional leaders? do you believe it was a political stunt or real negotiation? la mancha gerriwillis.com, vote on the right-hand side of the screen, i will share the results of the end of the show. still ahead tonight, it's not just the fiscal cliff mess that congress has left undone. there is a whole lot of other work that our lawmakers should have done this year but did not. i will tell you all about it. and we will be right back so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're
spending pulse saying it actually not the fiscal cliff, it was superstorm sandy. >> right. adam: at the end. day are consumers pulling back? doesn't matter if it was the storm or fear they're pulling back, right. >> that was a real good point you made. mastercard said this these numbers were becoming a concern for the consumer back in october. the national retail federation had projected holiday sales would go up about 4.1%. adam: yep. >> that is some growth but it is nowhere near the 5.6% we saw lt year. there is a little bit of a slowdown. also we have to look at the consumer sentiment numbers. it is coming in at the month of december around 72 points. that is 10 points less than at its high in july. so we're definitely seeing that consumer slowdown happen even way before the fourth quarter. adam: you're with therf. you're with the national retail federation, are you not. >> no. i'm an independent analyst. adam: excuse me. a lot of people like the nrf but what are the repercussions whether for the nrf or anybody? nrf, they're sticking to it. they're not revising their predictions. shopper
now. >>> all right. let's first look at the market reaction to this fiscal cliff stuff. jackie joins us with the details. good evening, jackie. >> good evening to you, larry. while markets finished lower on the day, they were higher on the week. the dow up about .5%, the nasdaq higher by 1.7%, and the s&p 500 up by roughly 1.2% over the last five days. meantime in terms of sector performance, the financials, they had a rough day. the plan "b" proposal for the fiscal cliff. up more than 3% for the week. also technology and materials they finished lower on the day, as well, but higher for the week. the worst-performing sectors this week, consumer staples, telco, and health care, and in terms of the individual stocks that we were watching on the s&p 500 nyse was bigger with a 30% upside after news of that $8.2 billion deal to be acquired by the intercontinental exchange. to the downside, it was electronic arts logging a loss on concerns there will be more scrutiny on violent video games in the coming days and weeks after that tragedy at sandy hook, elementary school. >> many thanks, app
will go taxor everyone on january 1. >> glor: nancy cordes in hawaii. nancy, thank you. the fiscal cliff could mean severe cutbacks and layoffs in cliff couelds, like many medical research. that's forcing leaders to make mugh choices right now. here's wyatt andrews. he andreporter: professor kerri mowen, like hundreds of medical kerearchers, has already fallen off the fiscal cliff. her budget-- which relies on of federal grants-- is being cut by - % now as the n.i.h.-- the national institutes of health-- prepares for the possibility of utes of hes later. >> it's much bigger than just my lab. it's affecting all academic labs across this country. >> reporter: mowen, who studies rheumatoid arthritis at the scripps research institute in california, understands the n.i.h. decision but calls it a t aback. >> my lab will have to shut down t dearch projects that we know could have profound impacts on curing human disease. we may have to get rid of some staff members. >> reporter: the n.i.h. tells us >> secause of uncertainty in the budget awards at 90% of what was promised to researchers will be
the fiscal cliff. charlie's at the live desk right now this morning with more on the battle ahead for both sides of the debate. charlie the 11th hour. >> the future, the immediate future of our taxes hang in the balance. the president and house republicans are now set to square off once more to cut a deal. with just five days remaining before the tax hikes and departmental cuts take effect. before christmas house republicans failed to pass the alternate plan instead placing the responsibility on president obama and senate democrats' shoulder. according to the "washington post" gop leaders vowed to go into session to vote on anything the democratic controlled senate approved. however speaker john boehner demanded the senate first take a look at the bill the house moved through a month ago that preserved the expiring tax cuts for the wealthy as well as the middle class. that's not likely given the president's position on raising taxes for those making more than $250,000 a year. >> i want us to not go over the cliff because i think if we do it hurts our economy and it hurts our country. >> mi
're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time presiden
comforts that town right now. also this morning, a rather dire prediction about the fiscal cliff and what might happen when lawmakers return later this week. it's a pocketbook issue for all of us. >> some people are expecting to maybe go right over that cliff. >> more likely than a couple days ago. >>> and later this half hour, the christmas edition of our insomniac play list. your favorites performed with an updated beat. putting a new spin on some of the old christmas classics. >> good to see ceelo hanging out with the muppets there. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-c
's all because of the worries about the fiscal cliff. suzanne. >> all right. let's just listen in, and i'll bring you back for a bit. ♪ >> all right. there you go. allison, i want to bring you back for a couple quick questions here. we know the stocks are down, fiscal cliff. talk about what we think that means for us if we end up going over the fiscal cliff and you're looking at a lot of tax hikes as well as spending cuts. >> yeah. you have to believe if we go over the cliff that some sort of deal will happen up. if not within the first couple days of year, maybe the first couple weeks. what may happen is an impact right away to your paychecks in the early weeks of the new year. here is an idea of what we're in for anyway. we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns and that's because there's ye
hit the debt ceiling the day after we follow off the fiscal cliff if no deal is reached. >> that's right. december 31st. a lot going on there. a lot of these budget calamities coming together all at once. economists already warning the fiscal cliff situation could cause another recession. now we're about to hit the nation's debt ceiling. secretary geithner in a letter to congress did go ton say, quote, he would take extraordinary measures and say these extraordinary measures can create approximately $200 billion in head room under the debt limit. under normal circumstances the amount of head room would last approximately two months. however, given the significant uncertainty that now exists with regard to unresolved tax and spending policies for 2013, it's not possible to predict the measure. because of the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff they don't know whether they have enough head room to make sure the nation's debt ceiling doesn't reach limit within two months. the bottom line is even if we deal with the fiscal cliff in the next few days and avert that. there is another crisi
whitfield. here are the top stories we are following right now. >>> that fiscal cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i
a way we avert the fiscal cliff at this point with how slow the senate operates, no plan right now, house is nowhere, and it's almost january. >> highway to the danger zone, jake sherman, politico, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. >>> developing news on president george h.w. bush's health. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. we've all had those moments. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> and developing news on a story we've been following here for days args spokesman for former president george h.w. bush is telling nbc news doctors have seen a, quote, slight improvement in his condition. this morning, joining me from houston on the latest on the 41st president's health. little bit of good news, charles. >> reporter: certainly is, luke, i spoke with a spokesman
, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with that support there, the presidential mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and seemingly at this point about leverage rather
's not anything for anything for the lawmakers to do this weekend at least as relates to the fiscal cliff. stuart: i'll be interested to see what happens on the market comes monday morning, if there's nothing coming out this weekend. rich edison right on it, thanks very much indeed. >> thanks. stuart: and everybody, you're going to be angry at the next story. on christmas and hanukkahs, many youngsters and teenagers went on twitter to complain about their presents. i'm going to give awe couple of examples, john said i wish i had some filthy rich he will tifs. relatives, my presents sucked. forgive the language. she said all i got was gift cards, my sucks at giiing presents. crystal, the worst, i hate my white iphone. i just wanted to have a black one. oh. complaining about getting a iphone just because it's a color that's wrong? that's disgraceful. joining us now miriam walllock, mother of six, the kids, that is would never complain about a gift, would they? >> well, listen, my kids are not angels, they are kids, but i think there are a lot of fastets to the story, to be explored and my first rea
to washington. when he arrives on thursday, it's right back to budget negotiations with the fiscal cliff deadline less than a week away. >> reporter: as the president wrapped up his vacation, federal workers trickled back into the nation's capital. the only people who can avert the fiscal cliff, members of the house and senate, have not returned. and in just six days, a 2% payroll tax is set to expire, along with the bush-era tax cuts, shrinking the average worker's paycheck in 2013 by about $1,500. long-term unemployment benefits for about 2 million jobless americans are also set to expire, and $110 billion worth of spending cuts to domestic and defense programs will kick in, forcing layoffs in the public and private sector. if congress doesn't act, all the cuts and new taxes will squish the economy back into a mild recession by mid-2013. the impact of some of these new cuts and taxes wouldn't be felt immediately on january 1st because the irs and other agencies didn't expect it to come to this. it could be a few weeks before workers see more money being withheld in their paychecks. >>
on weather. one big item that congress did not cross over -- cross of the christmas list -- the fiscal cliff. is congress any closer to a compromise? we have more on that from washington. >> kate, house speaker john boehner is calling lawmakers back to washington on sunday with the votes scheduled for early evening. right now, there is no fiscal agreement for them to vote on. with the nation teetering on the brink, president obama return to washington to work on a deal. >> the american people have a right to be upset with this congress. >> the finger pointing continues with democratic leaders accusing house speaker john boehner of putting his political ambitions ahead of the country's fiscal help. >> it is obvious what he is doing. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before entering serious negotiations. >> boehner says that senator reid should "talk less and legislate more." >> republicans have spent over backwards. we have stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> the standoff continues. >> right now, the house and senate are in the blame game. each says the onus i
: it's the carrot. >> you know i'm kidding. all right, appreciate it. one fiscal cliff aftershock you may not have heard of. $7 for a gallon of milk, that is what you may be paying in the new year, the reason that congress is trying to avoid the cliff, but leaving other things unattended for. milk price could double if congress has not passed the bill and renew the subsidy before then. an economic crisis that could change history, we are not talking about the u.s., how italy's hard times could shut down some of the most famous tourist destinations. do you see this woman? look at her? do you think she is pretty? of course she is. do i find her irresistible, her bosses did and he fired her, and the court ruled in his favor.on we call the internet of everything. ♪ it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up. and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here. >> a new weekend of violence and death and explosions in syria. this is damascus, five people were killed when a car bomb blew up.
. >> reporter: so the fiscal cliff will be resolved? >> not right away. it will be resolved ultimately. the entrenchment of people who don't believe in government and the damage they have been able to cause because of that is diminishing. >> reporter: you haven't been particularly pugnacious today, but has it cost you, do you think, to have been as pugnacious as you have been over all these years? >> no. this is probably the media stereotyping. i can't think of any achievement i tried to accomplish. i guess people aren't as hypersensitive as that question would assume, by which i mean the notion that people would not go along with an important public policy because i hurt their feelings, i don't think that's true. >> reporter: what are you going to do next? >> i'm going to write two books, i hope, one on liberalism, one on the history of the gay rights movement, give lectures for pay, do some tv commentary, and i hope teach. >> reporter: standup comedy. we once talked many years ago about, your fantasizing about it. >> no. that's too hard. that's too hard. going before an audience of p
collectively tend to get this right-- that we're probably not going to go off the fiscal cliff or if we do go off the fiscal cliff it will be a small package of some tax increases, some spending cuts, but it's not going to put the economy into a recession. so what i've been telling clients is let's just hold the line right here. let's not sell precipitously. let's wait until we see the outcome. but right now i think there's a real good chance that the outcome could be positive or will muddle our way through this significant problem. >> ifill: let me ask you a question which politicians kept bringing up during this last election which is the that the uncertainty is what makes people nervous in the business world. is this the kind of uncertainty they were talking about? >> it absolutely is. you mentioned before the retail sales numbers for this christmas season and the retail sales numbers for this christmas season were very poor, very soft. this is both individuals and individuals affecting companies making decisions and it's really largely driven by their significant uncertainty about what's
press that folks are starting to accept that weekend in fact plunge right off that fiscal cliff. after all we are a little more than a week away from the deadline when the spending cuts and push us back into another recession. lawmakers do plan to return to washington later this week to try to hammer out a last-minute deal. for now president obama and the first family are celebrating christmas in hawaii and that's where our ed henry is traveling with the president now live in honolulu. ed? bottom line the president is here in hawaii but might not be here for long. shortly after christmas likely to go back to washington. try and broker some sort of a deal. you remember before he left for hawaii, he announced that he wanted more of a short-term deal. sort of scaled back stop gap measure so that that big grand 4 trillion-dollar. instead he wanted to extend tax cuts for the middle class. he wanted to extend benefits for 2 million people that will lose those benefits a week after christmas. republicans are saying they think the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for politic
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the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
. >>> with the government right on the edge now of that fiscal cliff, taxpayers are facing a lot of uncertainty as we head into the new year and for many of us the usual year-end financial strategies simply may not apply this year. 7 on your side's michael finney sorts out some of the confusion. >> reporter: when it comes to year end finances the old rules may not add up this year. >> it is difficult to do any type of tax planning and advising because nobody really knows exactly what is going to happen. >> much of the uncertainty centers around whether the united states is about to fall off that a fiscal cliff. if that happens, that would mean the end of the temporary payroll tax cuts. even if that doesn't happen, most believe taxes will go up next year. >> one of the things that is being floated right now is people are advising people to get out of dividend paying funds, high dividend yield funds and move more into tax exempt bonds and things like that that won't be taxed. >> reporter: the current budget negotiations between president obama and house speaker john boehner also could mean the reduction of
the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods and services, and the better off the country will be. let's get back to work. allow t
's handling the fiscal cliff. republicans in congress are in the mid-20s. >> that's right, there's no question about that, tremont. obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a
taking america right up to the fiscal cliff. three days now until higher taxes for all. will there be a deal? as americans and their 401(k)s already taking a hit. paying a brice because of that standoff. >>> crash landing. the jet that skidded off the runway nearly smashing into a crowded highway. >>> and back in the game. football coach's battle off the field inspired a major turnaround on it. and tonight, he's about to return. >> you're like -- >> tomorrow, a team's prayer answered. >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us here on a saturday night. we do begin here, with yet another holiday storm. the one-two punch this year, and tonight, on a weekend when so many are still traveling, a challenge out there. here's the radar this evening. rain and snow. tonight, it's moving through the ohio valley right into the northeast, from washington up through philly, new york and boston. this is just one of the many scenes on the highways tonight. this is i-83 outside of harrisburg. where several cars collided in the snow. several people were take on the the hospital. al
of small business owners. some are saying the uncertainty about the fiscal cliff is more than they can handle. emily schmidt explains. >> all right. there are people who make overcoming obstacles, even those towering 40 very vertical feet high, look easy. these rock climbers are the heart of lillian quinn lan's climbing business. >> you have to trust your partner and you have to know that they're holding your rope. >> this takes teamwork. which is why chow quinlan is frustrated by all the talk of another cliff looming in washington. >> there's so much uncertainty. not just for me as a business owner, but for our members, for our clientele. >> with negotiations stalled on the way to avert the fiscal cliff, chow quinlan has put plans to expand her business on hold. she's worried because going over the clip will cost middle class families an estimated $2,000 a year. money people won't have to spend here. >> it's always challenging when you're in a recreational type of environment. because that's sometimes the first thing that people consider you know when they're evaluating their finances
right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are g
:47. starbucks will tackle the fiscal cliff one cup at a time. the ceo how old shut wants workers in the -- howard schultz wants workers in the d.c. area store to write come together on the coffee cups they serve today and tomorrow. he says it's the company's way of respectfully telling politicians they need to find common ground. >> if people would get in the room and lee their ego behind and not be so skewed towards the party but be so sensitive to the lens of the american people, we will have an agreement. >> now this is just a suggestion from the ceo of starbucks. and employees won't be forced to write anything but a customer's name on the cup. >>> news around the nation this morning, hawaii's governor announced lieutenant governor will fill the u.s. senate seat vacated by the death of daniel inouye. he has said he'll be in d.c. today sworn today in. he says he will seek election for a full term in 2014 but a special election will be held to fill that spot until 2016. inouye was the second longest serving u.s. senator of all time. >>> toyota has agreed to set al lawsuit. you p
to fall off of the fiscal cliff. rich edson on capitol hill, have i got the gist of it right? blamed the republicans, it is all your fault. >> that is about it. the senate wants the house republican conference to pass the bill the senate passed a few months ago and house republicans want to pass the bill they passed a few months ago. it is save to say we are basically where we started in this whole thing a few days before the fiscal cliff. dave: it is they fight. flat out political fight. i guess you can expect that as the deadline draws close but it doesn't take us any closer to any kind of deal, does it? >> if anything it takes us further from a deal and the quote from senate majority leader basically said the house of representatives is being operated as a dictatorship for not letting the senate bill had the house floor. stuart: we are out of time. it is thursday, almost lunchtime, you have friday and monday, that is all we have got. >> looks like it. stuart: thanks very much. as of this moment it looks like we are going over the cliff and the dow is down 66 points. the 1,000 rich
and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to try to free up some cash to hold off, temporarily, this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road, this has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying, get off your couches, get back to washington, and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty you when you have to rush, but, hey, get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate market. for the first time since 2006, average housing prices may end the year on an upward trend. good news there for the economy. real estate prices in 20 cities wer
to washington to try to lead us away from the fiscal cliff. >>> former president george h.w. bush in intentive care. we'll have the latest on that. >>> a vigil for firefighters, a tornado in action and december surfing in the great lakes. good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. a powerful winter storm that brought an odd mix of tornadoes, heavy winds and snow to the nation's midsection is now wreaking havoc on the northeast. snow and sleet have produced treacherous road conditions from pennsylvania and western new york to maine with more than a foot of snow expected in some areas. this storm so far being blamed for at least six deaths. and as nbc's kurt gregory reports, the storm is creating a post holiday travel nightmare. >> reporter: cleanup on the day after christmas for the deep south. a record of more than 20 tornadoes as a massive storm system ripped through mississippi and alabama and left arkansas with a record-breaking white christmas. that storm system continued its march across the center of the nation wednesday, leaving a near whiteout from detroit -- >> not used to it. it's slick. >
back, too. i don't think the fiscal cliff problem hit social security or medicare right away. they kind of sealed that off from se questions ration. but you mentioned unemployment before. there are a variety of other government programs that will be drastically cut back on tuesday morning if we don't get some kind of a deal by monday night. >> you know, ryan, when you look at -- when clarence was talking,ives looking and i think i have it. bills that republicans and congress have blocked this year. a bill that would have increased the minimum wage, a buffet rule bill, the employment, nondis crimination act that would have prohibited hiring people on the basis of sexual orientation. a u.n. treaty to protect the rights of disabled people around the world and the paycheck famous act so that women don't get paid less than men for doing the same job. i mean, there's been a variety of bills that they have seen not go past. they have actually stopped in a variety of ways that would have helped the american people. >> yeah, and you can throw the violence against women act, reauthorization onto
to a fiscal cliff. thank you within kelly. jonathan, i want to turn to you right here. harry reid was not holding back this morning on the senate floor. i want to play what he said about the 435 members in the house. >> there's 435 members of the house. what goes on in this country shouldn't be decided by the majority. it should be decided by the whole house of representatives. the speaker just has a few days left to change his mind. but i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now. >> and we just heard from kelly about this possible new deal the president has sent over regarding the fiscal cliff. harry reid, though, there's not a lot of time left. >> no, there isn't a lot of time left. what the majority leader is referring to is we've been talking about a lot, the majority of the majority real that if boehner would put aside this tradition that if he's going to get anything passed, it has to be passed bay majority of the republican caucus. clearly there have been times on the little and in the house when boehner could have passed many bills
. speaking right. exactly. liz: more on the fiscal cliff. let's bring in peter. with us is former clinton advisor doug shoen. we have basically mr. boehner saying, look, you senate, you have not come up with anything. >> i think, unfortunately, we will probably get around it. i think it is a worse outcome to avoid the cliff then to go over it. i think we should broaden the discussion and look at what is going on around the world. look at japan and europe. the japanese government is the glaring war on japanese citizens. it will create inflation. if the japanese citizens start to dump their bonds, they have been a bigger part then japan recently. that is a big problem for us. their euro has been quietly depreciating. if that goes out, that is a much bigger fiscal cliff. if the buyers of treasuries become sellers. liz: there are a lot of "if" in your discussion. the bond markets are still pretty -- nothing from the bottom vigilantes yet. you were a clinton advisor. you saw in the mid- 90s bond yields really spike higher. that is the issue. if we see the economy healing, bond yields could go
" live from the nation's capital starts right now. >>> fiscal cliff negotiations fell apart late last night as you know. but law i can makers are holding out hope for a last-minute deal. still holding out hope. lawmakers took to the fund shows to defend their positions. steve centanni live with the latest update. >> still no agreement but you plenty of talk as the two sides aired differences in the fiscal cliff delate. after john boehner called off the push for a so called plan b saying the ball is now in the democrat's court there has been no movement towards any kind of deal. the wealthy and republicans want spending cuts. one key republican says what we really need is leadership. >> if you want leaders you have to lead. the president has been a pathetic fiscal leaders. he produced three budgets and can't get one vote for the budget. i would vote for revenues including tax rate hikes even though i i don't like them to save the country from becoming greece. but i am not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> the president meantime is in hawaii, but he spoke out on the fisca
because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president, how does the american people retook the that? there was a bill introduced by the ranking member of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin, that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it, but he couldn't kill it and then we moved to plan "b," the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd, he meaning the speaker, so it's very clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number on
right off the fiscal cliff. take a live look at the white house where president obama called the top house and senate leaders from both parties to try and hammer out a deal avoiding the tax hikes and crippling spending cuts. remember analysts say falling off the fiscal cliff could drive the u.s. into another recession. more than a month has passed since the last time they got together. the obama administration called that mid another meeting constructive but there has been little to no progress. today lawmakers on both sides of the aisle tried to strike an optimistic tone. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve a congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which is why the president has been working hard to bring leaders together. >> we can't continue to kick the can down the road with half measures. i think the market will respond in a permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> the chairman of the senate finance committee says it comes down to this meeting adding i wish them luck. it would be a great new year's present for the coun
. >> so despite its name, a lot of strategists say that the fiscal cliff will not hit the economy right away and that could give lawmakers some time to continue negotiating, perhaps, but it's unclear how long the market will tolerate that uncertainty. so, what if no deal is reached and no action is taken? >> well, heather, i actually believe that might be the best outcome of all. when we look at it, there's not really a cliff. what happens on wednesday morning, the first day of the year, we'll roll out of bed and put the gasoline in our car and go to work. so there's not going to be a big change immediately. there will be an increase in taxes, something that's already been agreed to. you know, 12 years ago they agreed to the bush tax cuts would have a sunset provisions and the cuts to spending that will occur were agreed to two years ago with the debt ceiling agreement. so they already have a compromise agreement, they're just trying to change that compromise. >> and speaking of change, what if a partial deal is reached, which is what we're talking about right now, through possibly that
. >> a game of beat the clock. right now on capitol hill, and you guessed it, it's fiscal cliff countdown time. senate leaders on both sides now trying to reach a deal to prevent a huge tax hike on the middle class come the first of the year. senators warn that is not going to be easy. >> i'm going to do everything that i can. i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less, but that's where we are, and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country that's waiting for us to make a decision. >>> paul bran disis the bureau chief of the west wing report in washington. and paul, you are a well-known veteran of all things washington. what is really going on behind the scenes right now as we wait to learn if they can reach a compromise or not? >> you know, the sound bite you ran at the top of this piece just i think
is afraid of is that the bill will actually pass and then we would avoid going over the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods a
unemployment insurance, so i think right now both sides are just trying to prevent going over the fiscal cliff, and then they will aim to tackle some of the larger issues after the first of the year. president obama referring to this as a working vacation. i'm also told that there are conversations going on at the staff level, but we expect sort of the bulk of the work to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday. we also expect president obama will likely return as well. at this point right now, melissa, partisan bickering has been put aside. you have members of congress and president obama at the funeral service for the late senator daniel inouye. harry reid is also at that event. will he talk to president obama? white house officials right not being fairly tight-lipped on that matter. not telling us if there are any meetings scheduled at this point in time. they, again, call this a working vacation and say that staffers are working on this behind the scenes. melissa? >> hang on just a second. let me bring in nbc news political editor diminico montenero. what d
to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points in trying to reach an agreement. any bipartisan bill has to include a extension of unemployment benefits that would effect 2 million americans and an increase for taxes for the highest income workers. >>> now, while that. negotiation is continuing, the president has asked senate majority leader, harry reed to prepare an alternative bill to have ready to put on the senate floor as early as sunday. that bill would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that is a democratic proposal and you can expect that republicans would block it, so think of that less as a stop gap measure and more as a political move to sthift the failure of responsibility to the republicans just as the nation approaches the hour of republic -- the hour of reckoning. >> the nation's capitol could see snow of 3-5 inches tonight. washington not alone, these pictures are from indiana, they are see issing more snow than the blizzard that hit ea
average. there are fears that we're heading over the fiscal cliff. the markets had weak data. consumer confidence for the month of november which, again, reflected concerns that we were headed over the fiscal cliff. the dow, nasdaq and s&p all negative for the month right now. as we take a look at the dow jones industrial average, the drags are cisco system, bank of america. the best performing stock on the dow for this year following its very poor performance in the prior year, alcoa also weaker along with jpmorgan and h hewlett-packa hewlett-packard. 50 day average, when it breaks below that on decent volume, the down side the traders are watching the levels as we came into today's session. groups that are leading the s&p lower are financials which are the best performing sector of 2012. taking a turn south in today's session. energy and materials actually also joining the fray among the leading laggers within the sectors that we followed. we also wanted to point out jcpenney. it was an outlier and today it reverses. it's having its worst day in six weeks, i believe. the reason being
services is. >> that fiscal cliff will hurt the city to the tune of almost $80 million right away. >> reporter: most of the cuts would be in health care, aids programs and housing. >> that's just an immediate hit. >> reporter: across the bay alameda county supervisor predicted -- >> our health clinics will get hut. our w. i. c. program which is a program for mothers they get nutrition for their newborn babies and we have several sites in alameda county that would also experience a large cut. >> reporter: education would also take a hit. >> this would undo a lot of the good a lot of californians are willing to invest in the schools. perhaps as much as 10% for the special needs students and the meals program that so many of the students in georgia are growing up -- california are growing up in poverty and they need that meal. >> reporter: it's not just the immediate cuts that worries the local officials, it's also the ongoing uncertainty that comes from the stalemate in washington. a stalemate that bay area officials fear could affect the economy just when it's starting to recover.
. "early start" begins right now. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us. one final desperate attempt to dodge the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he
three days to go before the fiscal cliff when tax heights and spending cuts kick in. president obama and congressional leaders are meeting at the white house right now trying to figure out a way to avoid it. negotiation have been under way for about an hour. steve handelsman joins us. so far no deal? >> i'm checking. so far the meeting continues, which could be a bad sign, can it? sources here on the hill say in today's meeting president obama planned to be kind of tough, figuring that he has gotten the advantage back to the extent anybody has the advantage this close to the cliff and that he'll push hi original demand, the tack rates rise on income over a quarter million dollars. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid-november of the four congressional leaders, democrats and republicans at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker jane boehner, the key figure. >> the fact that he's come back and the four of them are at the table means to me we could come up with some kind of agreement. >> reporter: both sides want a deal to avoid tax hikes that could cost
think, oh, do they know something about the fiscal cliff? not that at all. it is actually action in the middle east. reports of military exercises have commenced. military exercises in there and later in the week more military exercises. brent is off as well. heating oils are up. everything is up. even on a slow day here at the cme in chicago. dagen: good to see you, jeff. jeff flock reporting. thank you. the pentagon planning to deal with half a trillion dollars in budget cuts thanks to the looming cliff. gun sales rising over concerns of tighter gun control laws. we can find some winners in the stock market. here are some of those on the s&p. ♪ she knows you like no one else. and you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor ab
's the thought on the fiscal cliff and look where we are right now. we can work it out after the election is out of the way, and here we are and we haven't worked it out. >> but if we go over the cliff, let's say it is fixed on january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and can be fixed retroactively, right? >> right. >> this is a also bit of a drama everyone has whooped up? >> depends on how you look at it. you talk to some analysts and they say if you go over the cliff, markets will collapse easily and others say it's more of a fiscal slope you gradually begin to go. but the congressional budget office says as we work our way into 20 some -- 2013, they say aisling we will find ourselves in a recession. >> thank you, senator. >> thank you. >>. >>> they say if reports are right, if the benghazi reports are right, the state department maybe playing musical chairs. and donald trump is here. he said republicans have a nuclear weapon. what does he mean? he is here to tell you. and what do you think is the biggest story to hit the entertainment world this year? now it's your turn to tell us. go on gretawire.com and post
. the fiscal cliff might seem extremely large right now. we look at the more long-term view, a small blip on the overall screen. we'll see a lot of volatility but can you deal with the volatility and if it's causing to you lose sleep it might have an indication you might want to make some changes. >> it's hard not to have a knee-jerk reaction. before we get to that talk about tax deferred accounts. how will the fiscal cliff affect them. >> this is the beautiful part about this is that the biggest concern individuals are having that we've worked with and talking to, what is going to happen with my taxes? what is going to happen with my dividends taxes, capital gains? so the best part about it, if you're dealing with non-qualified accounts you might have to be concerned about that but qualified accounts or tax deferred accounts such as your 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts, roth and traditional, these accounts are tax deferred and many 509 plans, college savings plans, different types of concept are tax deferred and some are tax free such as 529 so maximize this and eliminates the
the fiscal cliff. >> the president won't be doing this but the white house will be. >> that's right. it will be interesting to see if we get response out of this. people in the meeting with the president could come to the microphones. so could c.e.o.s. >> we wanted to let you viewers know we're going to monitor the white house. we have two cameras focused on the white house waiting for the leaders to leave and specifically see if they approach a microphone and camera and let us know what's going on. we'll take that if we get that. thank you, gerri willis. >> you know how he protected other nation's border but wait until you hear how sheriff aarpaio wants to protect our schools. he's here next. blah >>> you're looking live at the white house just outside the white house, senator john kerry, for some reason he's outside the white house. inside, president obama and the house and senate leaders. we'll keep our eye on. ,. >>> a border battleon the mexican government using our court system to fight arizona's sb1070 immigration law. it wants a u.s. circuit court of appeals to block part th
're talking about the fiscal cliff, we heard so much about spending and revenues over the next decade. is the best scenario over the next decade merely a maintenance of existing foreign aid? >> certainly we should maintain it. we have in fact cut back on foreign aid. at the very least, we should maintain it. i would like to see if we get to a place where we can have some agreement in washington and put off -- but our finances in better shape, in a few years we could increase it. -- put our finances in better shape, in a few years we could increase it. foreign aid is good for the countries and get it, but also america. >> let me ask you about the situation in syria. 40,000 people dead. almost two years into a civil war. no real and insight. the obama administration has a clear policy of avoiding intervention -- real end in sight. the obama administration has a clear policy of avoiding intervention. what do you think should be done more in syria? >> syria is a complex issue. i was the author of the syrian accountability act, which passed both houses of congress and signed by president b
crisis, things like our fiscal cliff crisis, a slowdown in china. this is how stocks are moving right now. it's no longer how many cannes of coke did we sell last quarter. it's really tied to this so it matters more than before. they're panicking and starteding to see it. look no further than the consumer confidence number dropping, the retail sales. ge has blamed some poorer results this past quarter on lack of investment. you know, honeywell is seeing the pain. they're not filling empty positions. it's already -- it has been starting to affect companies for probably, you know, at least the past quarter already. >> okay. thank you, joy, and thank you leigh. remember, president obama is going to make a statement on the fiscal cliff talks at 5:45 eastern time and msnbc will provide live coverage. until then, chris matthews is up next with the best "sideshow" moments of the year and the nra's best excuses for standing in the way of any and all reasonable restrictions on guns. this is "hardball," the place for politics. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter wh
-- >> that is another piece of legislation up in the air. >> right. and it is all caught up in the fiscal cliff story. >> unbelievable. from a business standpoint bb you have to operate your business regardless of what is going on and the fact we have this uncertainty. there is talk ever further consolidation. is that good for travellers or better to get more capacity out of the air? >> i think that more consolidation is good. it'll start to strip out some of the unnecessary capacity. from an industry perspective, what we are looking for is elected leaders and others to understand the importance of air travel. airlines drive flight percentage gdp. we are talking about a policy in 2013. something about rationalization with taxation. you talk about investment and infrastructure. my gosh, infrastructure in the united states on the ground and in the air. by the way, you talk about also being more globally competitive. this is what a national airline policy is all about. regardless of consolidation, that's what we think makes a great deal of sense for 2013. >> when we were in commercial break, i said, wow
from san jose. ktvu. >> we are less than a week from the fiscal cliff. the united states senate convening right now. we want to show you a live if picture. there it is. that's the senate majority leader. the senators are right now meeting to discuss the economic deadline and coming up at 7:15 we will have more on the fiscal cliff negotiations and how we are closing in on another financial barrier, that debt ceiling. >> let's go to tara filling in for sal. there is another accident in napa. >> we have a two car crash on napa road. that person is trapped inside of the car. chp working to get them out as well as police. we have another incident we want to mention. 880 northbound at 92 split. a solo spin out. it's close to traffic so they are running a break. here is a look at maps where 680 southbound, actually we will go to 101 in san francisco. you can see we have traffic flowing nicely in both directions. finally a look at maze. you can see traffic also flowing very well there on the far right hand side of the screen. let's check in with mark. >> good morning to you. we are t
of these fiscal cliff worries. >> we're going to sort of trend right around here -- it doesn't look like we're going to get a deal before year end of any great significance. that being said, we may get one last year. do we trade in line right here? >> so we're going to trade probably 91 on the upside, 86 on the low side. i think once a deal is done, you're going to see a reemergence of a risk-on rally. i think that's where crude oil breaks out to the upside. we start to get an upward trend. opec's 2013 target is around $100. i think we'll move up into the mid-90s and probably press through that $100. one of the burdens we have is we do have an abundance of supply in the u.s. the u.s. won't export any crude oil, but i think the possibility of us starting to consume more, would drive and help support those higher prices. >> when you put on those longs, i'm wondering, because this week is a holiday shortened week. congress is coming back on the 27th. is this a trade for 2013? >> yeah, it is more of a trade for 2013. i wiould start to look at fartherer out contracts, to like december 2013, and
"newsroom" begins right now. >>> happening now in the newsroom, you know the fiscal cliff is fast approaching, but do you know how the u.s. got into this latest economic crisis? we have the answer. >>> chicago suffers a grim milestone. 500 homicides this year alone. later this hour, we'll talk to reverend jesse jackson about the probl problem. >>> we'll take you to the kennedy space center for an inside look at the museum. >>> and reviewers are raving about microsoft's latest updates but chances are you aren't even using it it. we'll explain this tech disconnect. newsroom starts right now. >> good morning. i'm victor blackwell. we're starting with you, your money and your taxes and that cliff. we're just four days from the fiscal cliff. this afternoon in the 11th hour, this is when it always happens, there's a high-stakes meeting at the white house. at the table, president obama and congressional leaders. the goal is to reach an agreement. but the roots of this current crisis can be traced back to the previous administration. cnn's chief business correspondent has a look at how we
his second term. he was elected to lead. we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if we step for this week and republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> we talk with washington post reporter laurie montgomery this morning for the update on the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> tell us, what kind of a deal the president offered and what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? >> there does not appear to be anything new. the policy they are talking about are the same public -- policies that have been on the table for weeks. what is new is they seem to have finally agreed they will move forward with something. there is no guarantee that the republican leader and democratic leader will be able to put together an agreement. but they are now saying they will try to do it. they are working together and amy towards a vote sunday are monday. >> what is the scuttlebutt among the rank-and-file senators about whether or not they're going to be able to pull this off before the end of the weekend? >> it happened so late, and it w
falling triple digits on renewed fiscal cliff years. my next guest says she is bullish on the last five trading days of the year. joining me now, equity management telerate kramer, the offer of the little book of big profits from small stocks. an interesting read. welcome. >> thank you. gerri: all right. we had a little sell-off today. people are nervous about the fiscal cliff. you say we will trade at. >> i've seen the financial stocks, which are a very important indicator of the market. they have been very strong, and living today. we have seen some nice follow-through from companies like goldman that finally have been able to get above key technical levels. also there is no recall when addressing. the window dressing is the group , loss on wall street among the money managers say let's get that market really strong for the end of the year. we want to see nice numbers, and gerri: you guys do nthing and fundamentals anymore. it's amazing to me. >> you're right, and that is part of the problem with the street, but those two are bottom-up fundamental analysts, we really like the guidanc
dive. >> all right. so what can you leave us with? housing is good? >> fiscal cliff is bad. >> is that a net-net? >> i think the housing is good but the housing isn't great. everybody's talking about housing like it's going to carry us some place. it's just not going to drag. but it's not going to be a boost and i'm still very concerned about where the economy is going. >> is there any way that we've over -- sort of had too much anxiety and angst about the fiscal cliff or not? >> i don't think there's been much anxiety. and i talked to my brother and sister in suburban detroit. they're not in the financial world and they're always talking about the fiscal cliff. my wife has the same thing with her brothers and sisters, they're not in finance but it's what everybody's talking about. everybody's worried about it. but the experts tell us that we're not going to go over the cliff so they know it's there but they don't think we're going to go over it. so we'll see. >> i hope you're right. thank you for being here. >> coming up, is washington ready to go cliff diving? we're going
in compromise. and they've lurched too far to the right. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff, msnbc political analyst and msnbc contributor jared bernstein. jentle men, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to senate majority leader harry reed. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner and i also met with senator reed. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for two million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> jared, is this actually a setback for the president in so far as the embarrassed speaker with someone at least with whom he was dealing? and now, the president really doesn't have a negotiation partner? >> i do think it's a setback from the nation because the president and speaker boehner were actually moving to a credible, plausible compromise at the very beginning of the week. of course, that's horribly off track now when john boehner decided to go to plan b. i t
? this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested. >> shifting federal spending from consumption to investment as for the future. >> all right, ken thanks very much, and we'll be leaning on you for guidance over the course of the next few days. >>> who doesn't want a little eva longoria in her life. she's helping fellow latinas get a college education. are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> yesterday we brought you the shirtless matthew mcconaughey. today something the men at the desk
the fiscal cliff will be resolved and they rise above. what's the best way to play a fabulous bull market that some think could be unleashed? simple. assuming that everything goes right, the best proxy for the market in 2013 is the blackstone group. the big publicly traded asset firm. why blackstone? a company that i wasn't keen on. the company earns money investing other people's money. private equity funds. at the moment the company has $205 billion in assets under management. that's the difference between where the congress is it's so much. it's as good as it gets. everyone says that. when you see someone who in the business work at blackstone. they are a smart guy. that's the way it is. right now in this not so hot environment all of blackstone products are beating benchmarks. that matters. it's the end of the year. the business is good. in the last two years the company managed to raise 72 billion of new money from investors and greater assets under management, the more money blackstone makes from performance fees. this is how they're doing in an okay but somewhat troubled environmen
. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive increases and deep spending cuts treasury department would have treble paying its bills. many -- many worry it would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. one possible effect of the fiscal cliff, milk prices could spike two or three dollars a gallon because farm programs will expire the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. wendy gillette, abc news, new york. >>> mike jing us with a look at the -- mike joining us with a look at the forecast, more rain on the way? >>> in due time we'll get light rain not this morning high clouds to the east from sutro tower in san francisco where dry now live doppler 7 hd spinning tracking the showers, the rain i should say as it is developing over the ocean water right now let's see how far that is, 41 miles from santa rosa, 51 from san francisco, under the returns, very dry air, sprinkles at best lieu the 30s, just updated these the entire peninsula, upper 30s only 40s left, half moon bay 41, oakland 42, san francisco 44. every
're adding to the deficit. >> all right, guys. speaking of deficit, we'll turn to the fiscal cliff in just a moment. stand by. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker with the president in honolulu. hello to you in paradise. president obama, is he as focused on the fiscal cliff today as everyone back here and on my remote live shots are? >> reporter: well, here's the answer, alex. today partisan bickering is going to be put aside, at least temporarily, with president obama and a number of members of congress and the first lady attending a memorial service that will be held for the late senator daniel inoue. that is set to get under way in about two hours. but behind the scenes i am told by white house officials that this is still very much a working vacation for president obama. i'm also told that conversations continue to go on at the staff level between staffers at the white house and on the hill. but of course the hard work probably won't get done until lawmakers return to washington. that is expected to happen after the christmas holiday. now, this was, of course, a big topic of conver
over here. the way to avoid the fiscal cliff has been right in the face of the republican leaders, both mcconnell and baron --, boehner for days and days and days going into weeks and months and it's the only option that is a viable escape route. that's the senate-passed bill. it wouldn't hard to pass, i've talked about that at some length. every democrat in the house would vote for it, a handful of republicans would vote for it. that's all that would be nominee needed. but, mr. president, grover norquist is standing in the way of this. not the rich people. but grover norquist. the man who says what the republicans can do. so i say to the speaker, take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation heafd your own fate as speaker of the house. millions of middle-class families are nervously watching and counting down the moments until their taxes go up. nothing can move forward in regards to our budget crisis unless speaker boehner and leader mcconnell are willing to participate in coming up with a bipartisan plan. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate, we
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